Originally by: IR Scoutar

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navy apoc > paladin

paladin does have higher resists and due to the bonus it can rep more
but
the first 1 bonuses of the paladin are wasted apoc gets builtin bonus cap wise and webby.. ummm yeah
thenn we got the no extra range bonus so your gona have to fit beams
beams dont fit unless you add a faction pdu or an rcu II

then we got the rep bonus
even the rep bonus doesnt make for a dual repped tank so we have to fit another repper anyways
and because the navy apoc has 8 not 7 slots and doesnt need the pdu/rcu we can fit another heatsink and megapulses
wich makes that 5% damage bonus sort of meh
unless you train marauder 5
the cargohold of 1125 is not big enough for allot of missions anyways so most you can do is get your cans together for ease of pickup ... but then again a destroyer is quite fast anyway...

wich leaves us with rig slots
of wich the navy apoc again has 3 and the paladin 2 giving the navy apoc even more cap to play with

leaves us with the iskies
navy apoc is cheaper
sooo as a final comparison we have
a very good ship that can make painfully big holes at a good range for nothing or i suppose if you realy wanted to u could use navy crystals or conflags ... or if your borred you can obliterate anything within 70k because the dps with scorch is still prety awesome
and then we have a horribly overpriced albeit goodlooking bucket thats barly better than an apoc and a tiny bit better than a navy apoc at dishing out the hurt but only if you have marauder 5

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Originally by: Fon Revedhort

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Originally by: Lady Aja

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Edited by: Lady Aja on 27/10/2008 14:24:57
there they are...

Tach setup

Amarr Navy Large Armor Repairer
3x hardenrs to suit or maybe a omni tank
Heat Sink II x3

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II

Dual LAR setup...

Capacitor Power Relay II x2

Cap Recharger II x3
Stasis Webifier II

Mega Pulse Laser II, Amarr Navy Multifrequency L x4

Rigs to suit

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Omg, you achura tell us he has no clue how to fit Paladin and then show setups with cap recharges? Seems fuzzy logic is way to popular these days.

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Originally by: TimMc

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Originally by: Lady Aja

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Originally by: Fon Revedhort

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Originally by: Lady Aja

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Omg, you achura tell us he has no clue how to fit Paladin and then show setups with cap recharges? Seems fuzzy logic is way to popular these days.

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no cap with paladon = no damage/tank.. counting on cap booster charges in a mission to mainain a tank is plain STUPID.

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I was more surprised the setup is using T1 rigs and t2 fittings, rather than t2 rigs and complex/faction fittings.

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Originally by: Pry Maraai

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Paladins strength is in its possibility have the mission looted/salvaged in the same time it takes to do it. (Without haveing to waste multiple accounts). I think it will be hard to find another ship that does this faster than a pulse paladin.

A small bonus is the low ammo use.

If all you want is to complete the mission as fast as possible, you would want a nightmare with tachyons. After that I suppose a tachyon abaddon or paladin would work, and if on a budget apoc. (Navy apoc isnt that much different, its just 1 more low slot).

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Originally by: Nocturnal Avenger

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Originally by: Cloora

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I am still having problems justifying the cost of Mauraders for my mission running.

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Why?

It's not like the isk is wasted (except that the marauder price is dropping a bit more).

Or are you planning on losing your ship to rats?

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Originally by: Misanth

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Originally by: Lady Aja

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DUDE you have no idea how to run a paladin AT ALL!

if you cant run it 100% cap stable with 4 t2 tachs and a faction LAR then youre one HUGE fail.
the paladin can also run a dua LAR using MEGA PULSE II's very easy if you know how..

please don give advise when youre not 100% clued up.

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Was thinking similar things. My guess is he has very low skills.

For one, with max cap skills and regular t2 tank, I never need more than a single t2 LAR in any mission - the only exception is the Worlds Collide bonus room, but I swap out my Tachyons for a Pulses there and throw in a 2nd repper and it's all fine.

If the Paladin is worth it or not.. I never bothered to buy one even tho I can. My alt is running Amarr missions in a CNR instead, considering that around a third of the Sansha/Blood raider missions has enough TD to make the missile boats faster, and the that Serpentis/Guristas is quite frequent (not as much as Mercenaries and Drones, but enough).. if you count the time you spend on missions over say, 100 ran, the CNR equals the Amarr BS speed. And it saves you the frustration in the slow missions.

Amarr BS goes rollercoaster too much for my liking. Fast in some missions and slow in others. But if I had to pick.. Navypoc, Paladin, Nightmare, they're all fine, you make the money for the ship in short time anyway. Paladin should make missions slightly faster, it'd be worth it in the long run.

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